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By: Seth Finkelstein

Seth Finkelstein — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:16:00 +0000

Thanks for the compliment, though “ONE OF the smartest people blogging today” would be more accurate .To me, that list is a case study of what I said:”Blog evangelism is very cruel, as it preys on people’s frustrated hopes and dreams.”It’s a MARKETING list – it’s deceptive by the use of emotionally appealing constructions that play on desires, yet will not fulfill them. It employs strategies of weasel-worded phrasing which imply something that will not be delivered.And the ultimate proof is that there is no point in my detailing the fallacies. He could just write a personal attack on me, to which I could not even effectively reply (i.e., be *heard* by a comparable audience). The bogospheric winner is not the one with the best evidence or most accurate reasoning, it’s who is the best demagogue.To reply to: “I agree that the some of the people who are at the top of the blogosphere right now will not be at the top if and when blogging goes mainstream. I think Seth G. would argue that many of us will be dead of old age by then- at least as far as news goes.”Did you mean me, or Seth Godin? – That point’s a FAQ, Frequently Asserted Querulousness. I call it the “Fame Is Fickle” argument. Sure, some stars fade, other rise – but who cares, if YOU will almost certainly remain in obscurity? It doesn’t refute the idea that topics tend to have a few gatekeepers of enormous influence over “discussions”, and everyone else who has to beg them to get much distribution. It’s an attempt to insinuate some sort of egalitarianism from “uneasy lies the head that wears the crown” (that is, if the nobles fight over who is king, that’s somehow supposed to make you feel better about being a serf).

By: Kent

Kent — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 05:22:00 +0000

I’m appreciate that my AdSense ads were not agressively placed, and others (specifically Randy Morin) have told me that my AdSense experience is not typical. That’s why what was going to be a long post bashing the whole system got canned.Having said that, I still don’t think the typical blogger is going to get a very good return for his or her effort by tossing up some ads. Blogging is hard work and if cash is the goal, there are probably other areas (eBay comes to mind) where the likely financial return is greater. My point in this post was not that you can’t make a little money with ads, but that it’s not wise to blog with making money as a prime motivation.About the bar. You’re right- if some dude walked up and started jabbering at us, I’d want him to get lost. But if I saw the same guy all over the place and he seemed friendly and had something to add to the conversation, over a relatively short period of time he would naturally become a part of the group/conversation.I agree that the some of the people who are at the top of the blogosphere right now will not be at the top if and when blogging goes mainstream. I think Seth G. would argue that many of us will be dead of old age by then- at least as far as news goes.I fear that the bloggers who get a big identity outside of the blogosphere will ultimately be a new set of bloggers funded and directed by old media as it moves online. My worry is that old media will conscript and pervert the blogosphere into some warped version of itself.While I would love to see some new blogging stars, I hope they will be genuine bloggers/journalists and not some creation of the media.

By: Mike

Mike — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 05:05:00 +0000

Kent,Two quick comments and then I’m going to bed.1) Your google ads sucked. I accidentally noticed them the day I emailed you about them. You can’t bury them in the basement next to the jaguar and expect people to find them. I bet if you got even slightly more aggressive with the placement, you would have seen a lot more clicks, maybe not enough to get you rich, but enough to take your kids to a movie now and then. Maybe more depending on how much traffic you get.I only get between 50-150 pageviews a day across 4 blogs and I am getting really close to making enough to pay my hosting bill. And that’s with the blogs being new and getting very little search engine traffic. 2) The Blogosphere is not necessarily about open 2 way conversations. If you went to a bar with a bunch of friends and were having a good time, would you be annoyed if some guy who happened to like what you were talking about decided he wanted to talk to you. Cliques are normal things. Big deal. The people you complain about not being friendly with their links are the movie stars of the little blog world. Tom Cruise probably doesn’t respond to every email he gets. I don’t imagine that Scoble, Seth, etc are going to have the time and inclination to do it either.I really like that law of diminishing share concept. I bet that when this whole blogging/online persona thing really hits the mainstream it is going to hit the long/short tail in ways that we can’t even begin to imagine yet. As well as our definitions of who the trend setters are. I bet a lot of nobodies from nowhere are going to be a lot more influential as the rest of the world gets more interactive in the internet/blogging/podcast/vcast world. Should be fun to watch.

By: Kent

Kent — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 04:29:00 +0000

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